Beiträge von dmi AWD oder Kuga PHEV

Zitat von Sealy

Yes, no adaption to road sign speed limits available.

hmmm that is really pity. I found it very helpful option (to prevent speeding tickets) and it should be easily implemented using a software uopdate.

In the same review they measured the consumsuption (end of video) and that was not really fantastic. Any comments on that ?

I just viewed an extensive German review about the Seal U dmi AWD.

They showed that the traffic sign recognition really worked very good. However I did notice that when in acc the speed of the acc is not adapted by the speed traffic recognition. So if you set the acc to 100 kmh and you pass the trafic sign 120 kmh, it is displayed in the display but the acc speed is not adapated to 120. Is this correct ?

Zitat von Treponem1909

Du überschätzt meinen Einfluss hier gewaltig! Wenn ich dich blocke (was ich nicht getan habe, warum auch?) kannst du dich hier nicht mehr einloggen? 🤨 Wie man auf so eine Idee kommt, möchte ich tatsächlich gern verstehen wollen. 🤔

BTW….es tut mir leid, dass du meine ironisch gemeinte Antwort falsch aufgefasst hast und werde sie entfernen! ✌️☺️

Someone did block me after your respons so I asumed it was you. So my excusses if it was not you. However I was logged out and could not log in anymore and had to create a new profile. OK it works now again with this new profile and I hope it will stay this way.

Zitat von Icefeldt

Really doubt that.

Did you already get an offer from a company?

How long is the distance from you "main eletricity point" to the wallbox?

You can buy cheap 11kW wallboxes for ~200-250€

If you have a solar system, then the "special ones" which are managed by your solar input are ~700€.

Mounting that to a wall i like mounting a picture. Not hard at all.

The only thing which can be tricky is "making the hole for the cable".

Making the final electric connection is the only thing which has to be done by a professional, as I guess you also need to register it with your electric company.

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Yes it is that difficult since they have to make adaption to my old electric system at home and do some digging to find the acces point outside and than pull an electric cable to my electric cabinet inside..

Yes the cheapest one was 2000 euro and the most expensive one was 3200 euro

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Wallbox - 269€ (https://www.technishop.de/wallbox/technivolt-technivolt-100)

30 metres NYM-J 5×4 mm² cable - 130€ (https://store.besserladen.de/p…itung-nym-j-5x4-mm%C2%B2/)

braker unit ~70€

Then you only have to pay for the electrician to connect a few cables and install the breaker.

Should be EASY under 1000€

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Zitat von Treponem1909

Bin sehr betroffen. Ich werde versuchen, mich zu bessern. ✌️😘

....ein Beitrag hier, Gestern angemeldet, aber er kennt mich. Bin beeindruckt! 😍 Allerdings hat er den 😉 dahinter nicht gesehen. Oder er kennt die Bedeutung nicht? 😯

....und was meint er mir "geblockt"? Übersetzungsfehler kann man ja ausschließen. Also wieso geblockt? 🙄

"geblockt" meaning I could not login anymore in the this forum and I had to registrate again under another name

Zitat von Sealy

Ist doch okay, wenn er von seinem Vergleich berichtet. Vergleichen geht nun mal nur mit zwei Modellen. Wen es nicht interessiert, braucht es ja nicht zu lesen.

I think, the blocking by Treponem was not offensive, but just to skip your notes for a better overview here.

Back to the topic:

I think, that the innovative drive mode in the BYD may be the decider for you. Nevertheless, if you have a camper, maybe the Kuga will come first, because of the „Trekgewicht“. Hope, you will be happy with your new car, whatever it will be.

What I don‘t understand is: why does the Kuga switch into eco mode in a „German eco zone“? By the way: what is the German eco zone? Do you mean the signs, that show that you need a green badge behind the windshield? If yes, this function is totally useless. No one is interested in these zones, how you drive. You just need that badge 🤷🏻‍♀️.

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Good question. I also do not know what a German eco zone is, I am from The Netherlands. I just noticed in the display that the car switch to eco mode at the start of the zone and at the end of the zone back. Yes I agree that I prefer the drive train of the DMI since bassically you always drive electric eccept when you do a kickdown when the ICE also gives some support to the transmission.

Concerning the driving dynamics of the dmi. I am waiting for the "type 04" update of the dmi at the dealer. This update improve the driving dynamics since it makes the car a bit firmer. This update first came available in Australia after many complaints about the too soft suspension for Australia road conditions. If you order a dmi in the Netherlands now you get the type 04 update.

I still am looking for reliable fuel consumption data (inclusive the driving conditions like driving mode, speed, type of road etc. ) of the dmi with a SOC of 25% (so "empty battery" and the car drives in HEV mode).

Zitat von Der Edero

Danke für die Informationen.

Diese sind in einem Ford Kuga - Forum sicher gut aufgehoben, in Welchem Sie jeder Ford Kuga - Interessierte gerne nachlesen wird.

aber auch hier

In the Netherlands the dealer was told by BYD that if you order a DMi now you get the "type 04" update. This is the same update the dmi got in Australia where there were a lot of complaints about the suspension too soft (a lot of body roll). With this update the suspension should be more firm preventing lift-right movements in when driving into corners and less rockinging when you brake. The car stay comfortable tough. Hope I can make atest drive soon in a dmi with this update.

Final report (translated by google from Dutch to English and also published at Ford Kuga forum) after driving 2500 km with the Ford Kuga and why I probably will buy the Dmi-AWD

Kuga : Again, if the battery is empty upon departure, there is no possibility to fully charge the battery while driving (yes, I know that this would not be economical). Only in sport mode incl. L position (where you cannot choose EV now or EV later) I was able to charge a maximum of 0 to 4 km during a "test drive of 2500 km" in a mountainous area, but these 4 km were also gone in no time. In eco and normal mode, charging the battery was not possible at all (strangely enough, you can then click on EV now and EV later, but what is the point of that with an empty battery). Of course you do see EV km on the counter, but it only increases when the car goes downhill or holds back/rolls out. You can only collect approx. 20% of EV km as a HEV! In EV only I was able to drive 0 km if you start with an empty battery. To be able to drive EV only, you really have to put the battery at a charging station in advance to charge it. When it is empty you drive with a HEV until you charge the battery again at the charging station. Really a big minus point for me and probably the deal breaker that makes me go for the BYD SEAL U DMi-AWD which works the other way around, namely a fully electric car with over 200 hp electric motor on the front wheels, over 160 hp electric motor on the rear wheels and a over 130 hp petrol engine that keeps the battery capacity at a level of min. 25% to max 75% according to choice. So you drive 99% of the time fully electric, only when you do a kickdown the combustion engine also directly supports the wheels. The BYD also has an LFP battery with an 8-year warranty and 6-year warranty on the entire car (as opposed to 2 years for the KUGA) and that for the same price!

Back to the Kuga: Further with battery empty, in eco mode and speeds of 80 -130 kmh fully controlled by the acc using speed sign recognition (which works fantastically well in the Kuga) the consumption is 16.9 km per liter which is a normal gasoline consumption, not exceptionally good.

What I also noticed is that when you leave a motorway the acc also adjusts the speed, even if there is no vehicle in front, great Furthermore, in Germany you have eco zones and if you are in normal or sport mode the car automatically switches to eco mode at the start of the eco zone and when you leave the eco zone it switches back to normal or sport mode, great

What I also noticed is that:

- indicator sound could be a bit louder (you often forget to put it back, but then you get an alarm at a certain point when you have forgotten)

- placing your phone on the wireless charger comes very sharp otherwise the smartphone does not charge

- interior quality could be a bit better, a lot of hard plastic and a lot of black (two-tone would freshen it up a bit)

- audio quality is fine (no DAB reception in Austria)

- seats are fine

- air conditioning, heated seats and steering wheel are fine

- acceleration and top speed are fine

- when opening the car by approaching the car it would be handy if the rear doors also unlock (now you have to use the key once more for that).

- opening the trunk by foot movement is very handy

- parking assist is great both in traffic jam parking and in reverse parking

- matrix lighting is great, also automatic mode

- HUD on a plastic screen is outdated

- sound in the car when cruising is mainly tire noise, when accelerating hard you can clearly hear the engine/eCVT

after first day in Kuga (950 km) :

consumption 15,2 km per 1 liter bis zu 17.2 km per liter (in normal and eco mode and the adaptive cruise control on 140 kmh and sign recognition determined the speed, in Germany the speed on high ways changes very very often so the speed was between 80 and 140). However with empty battery and speeds below 100 kmh, consumptions of >18 km per liter can be achieved easily

When i started the drive the battery was completely empty and it would not charge when in "EV later" mode, maybe the rental company blocked this feature. So I was not able to drive in EV only just in hybride mode. Nevertheless the car drives than 25% of the distance in EV mode. I think I prefer the DMI system where you always drive electric independent of the SOC of the battery.

DAB receiption in Austria seems less, sometimes the radio was dead for 10 seconds. Probably same problem as in the DMI.

Driving dynamics good but on bad roads not so comfortable. In the beginning you think it is quiet inside but after 400 km you start to sence the noise more than in the beginning.

Interior has a lot of cheap plastic

Head room (no panaroof) in the front is very good even in the highest sitting position

Head on display (not on the front screen but on piece of plastic) : for me no value.

to be continued